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Anti Yaoi is not Real Hate by Kaioh-the-PureMage Anti Yaoi is not Real Hate by Kaioh-the-PureMage
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Please don't try to use the excuse that anti-yaoi is homophobic. That's bullshit.

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Edithel Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2017
Nice to see how you blocked me, PrinceDumuzi. It shows that you can't really take anything else I say. Also, mocking people and jumping to conclusions does NOT strengthen your point. And I don't have a stamp saying pansexuality isn't real, it says it is. You know why? Because I'm pan. I'm not crybabying over anything, you're the one rabidly attacking me personally. And no, I don't dislike all yaoi. I'm not trying to hate on everything to become popular, nobody in my school even uses dA. And about cyberbullying? If anything, you're cyberbullying ME. You're calling me a homophobic pig, cunt, etc. And you say I'M the hypocrite ;)
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KaaroTheBat Featured By Owner Edited Apr 12, 2017  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
It's great to see that logical arguments, experiences, and sexualities can be completely disregarded just because you disagree with someone, isn't it? Especially if said person believes that a genre of manga that depicts unhealthy relationships and brings in girls who fetishize malexmale relationships is helpful and how all gay relationships are supposed to be. It's especially great since said person immediately blocks someone just because they can't handle the absolute shit storm they caused in retaliation to the bullshit they've spewed. 
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Edithel Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2017
Ah, the internet is such a wonderful place.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2017
So by rabidly attacking any ship involving two males isn't homophobic? Yeah keep spewing bullshit karma will get to your ass.. yaoi has evolved as a term for male ships nowdays and not just a part of manga. 


Also stfu SonicBoom-zers, if anything yaoi is positive attention to gays and there are gays who like yaoi so quit lying your ass off because I doubt your ass has gay friends as that's what all homophobic cunts say! Newsflash, as a gay boy myself I like yaoi so get a reality check ya SonAmy stolkholm syndrome bitch! Sonic loathes the idea of being with Amy and hates her, so keep your delusional bs off the site!
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KaaroTheBat Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2017  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
I would like to add a few of my own thoughts to this from a more vaguely neutral-ish stand point if That's alright! If you disagree, that's fine! These are my own thoughts based on my experience and what' I've seen 

Yaoi is not equal to a normal gay relationship. 

Not liking yaoi is not homophobic. In most cases of yaoi, a homosexual couple is depicted in a very unhealthy manner (i.e intense possessiveness, the particularly gross rape troupes, and the idea of a seme and an uke is very hetero-normative). It's girls who usually fetishize the holy hell out of gay relationships. This is most prevalent by calling a gay relationship yaoi. Another thing to add, Yaoi is essentially gay porn, but depicted in an unhealthy manner in manga. That's why Shounen-Ai is not the same as Yaoi. If anything, Shounen Ai is closer to actual gay relationships than yaoi. Also, Yaoi hasn't brought positive attention to gays. Yaoi creates unhealthy beliefs of how gay relationships work (thus the existence of the whole "Who's the girl in the relationship?" or other variants questions). Saying that yaoi has brought positive light to homosexuals is in the same vein of a straight girl calling herself an ally just because she supports johnlock or destiel, but being disgusted by two men kissing in public. 
As a gay man myself, I don't think yaoi is a positive representation of what our relationships are like. I don't think it's actually positive at all. It's fetishizing us and it feels disgusting knowing that people see us in that same light. Of course by all means, if you like it, then enjoy it, but just try to understand what harm it can do to us. 
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Apr 12, 2017
Sorry but I highly doubt you are really gay as for one there are worse things out there like wars and the real homophobia like real gays being beaten, tortured, imprison, and killed for their sexuality! Is yaoi doing any of that you stupid little whiny brat?! Nope! And fetishing? Better that then killed! There are no ways to define a gay relationship, so get that through your thick delusional skull! There are no unhealthy benefits either, just retarded hatebrats who lie about their sexualities to spread more hate! A real gay wouldn't hate on yaoi, as we realize it's positive as we get like and support from it! You're just a whiny brat trying to spread hate to something that is positive and you hate the fact gays are getting liked from it! Romance isn't disgusting which proves you're not gay period! Real gays would never say that as real gays approve if romance! There is no harm, just liars who hate on it for having gay romance in it! You whiners never complain when heteros fetish over heteros but baw when it's two gays? Hypocrite! You're not gay, just a liar like so many fake gays I see on this site making shit up only so they can spread more hate! Something that isn't what gays do! You obviously don't know jack shit about history of cry about a little manga series like it's the worst thing ever!

Violence, hate, and war are the real disgusting things! As well as real homophobia! There is no harm from yaoi which is nowdays malexmale pairings! There is no defined personalities for gays or heterosexuals! Something liars like yourself, delusional think proving you are the homophobic one here claiming that there is! Hey dumbass? Some gays are like just what yaoi depicts! My husband and I are like that so get over yourself! I swear this is why so many alien races out there hate humans there nothing but whiny brats worshipping murder, hate, war, and go about hurting their own kind and think it is okay to murder other species acting entitled and think they are above everything and use egostical stupid excuses! Get a brain because there are far worse things then yaoi towards gays! Many gay people are fans of yaoi! Something a whiny over senstive lying manbaby like you can't handle! Kid, I happen to represent Universal Law and we see that kind hate and lies towards those things as homophobia! So you're an idiot to think a lowly person like you would ever fool me into believing your obvious bullshit!

Oh and no real anthro would ever approve what you said either, they'd beat the shit out of you till your lifeless for that! Pretty hypocritical to call yourself gay and use a female anthro bat as your icon! If anything that is homophobic as it is calling gay people as girls, so even your icon showed you're a lying brat! Might wanna leave the anthro fandom as no real anthromophic animal would like you at all, and yes real ones exist they are from the same planet I come from! They'd probably hate you not only for that but attacking a member of their royalty with that bullshit too! Nice going making enemies with all real anthros! You're a complete bad joke! Haha! If you think that a member of the Universal Council like me would be nice to you, think again! I will not show kindess to those who break the laws and harass me! You humans aren't as high and mighty and mighty as you claim and your kind's days are numbered! I'm only here to teach the truth, warn, and explain humanity of their crimes, so I'm not gonna be nice to a race that thinks they have the right to treat other advanced races like their lives don't matter and think they have the right to kill them! Sorry, but you may wanna realize you shouldn't have replied to me with that as I'm know to be very nightmarish towards anyone who breaks the Universal Laws! I'm pretty much the one who can give hellish nightmares to anyone in order to give them what they deserve! This is no joke, I don't play games so sorry but it's part of my protocols to treat people who decided they have any right to mess with the UC! Infact many gays where I'm from are like yaoi so you just proved you're a delusional egostical fool who clearly forgetten their place.. Tootles~
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Edithel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017
It's not homophobic to not support a ship of two males. I personally only support a ship if it makes SENSE, whether it's yaoi, yuri, or neither. Yaoi is not positive attention to gays, it is turning them into fetishes. Most yaoi I have seen is just them fucking, even if the ship makes no sense, and fangirls making homosexuality into a fetish. It's gross. Being against some yaoi ships is not homophobic, that's like saying you're heterophobic for being against some straight ships.
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mvrtyrii Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hrr, I agree so hard with u. Good words :iconclapplz:
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Mar 24, 2017
Yaoi is positive, idiot. I'm gay and I like yaoi and many fans are gay themselves! Frankly everything you just said is all hypocricy and denial of your own stupidity, grow the fuck up! Gay people do like yaoi, you pig! How is hetero fans fawning over hetero ships not turning them into a fetish? Given how I am a gay yaoi an proves your whiny ass "not positive towards gays" is all you bullshit fail hateful opinion and not fact at all! Oh and seeing your page it proves you are rather homophobic being how you are crybabying saying pansexuality isn't real, sorry kiddo you are wrong, delusional, and nothing but an edgy 13 year old brat just hating on stuff to look popular because you have no friends whatsoever in your school~ Grow up kiddo, and cyberbully? Wow you are headed for a life a crime right there! You're nothing but a sad pathetic homophobe in denial! Laughably pathetic! I bet you didn't read the site rules because you think it's cool to break rules! 
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LoppiePiePie Featured By Owner Edited Mar 17, 2017
"Sonic loathes the idea of being with Amy and hates her"

Sonic does 
NOT hate Amy! He's probably just annoyed with her being so clingy.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Mar 17, 2017
Yeah sure.. *sarcasm* Sorry but she also hits me hard with her hammer, you male abuse supporting child! He doesn't like her at all and only puts up with her because of his nature! Get a reality check, he hates her and it's obvious and like all fanbrats in this fandom you only see Amy as perfect and ignores what she does wrong and fails to mention her violent screaming bratty and hateful behavior! He hates her, why wouldn't he? He hits him and his best friend Tails! 

Unlike whiny children like you, I observe both sides very closely! I am not a fool who ignores the errors of one while lying about how the other feels! Sorry, but I can't allow children who whine and attack others because they are blind to the facts! Sorry but he doesn't like her at all, and no one would like someone who screams in their ears, hits them, stalks them, does things that would no doubt get her arrested, acts like a five year old tantruming when she doesn't get her way, and makes up dates, is highly delusional, makes up lies, only acted selfless once with the bird but everytime else was selfish as hell, tries to trick and deceive, and tries to force them to like them!

Her age is no excuse I met one of my best friends when she was 12 and now she is now 16 and she is waaaaaaay more mature then most of my friends so Amy's age doesn't make up for squat.

I know how you're gonna react and how you behave as I have studied human behavior and observed, so I know what unfair excuses your kind tends to pull in these arguements.. one of these days the tide's gonna turn as Sonic will snap eventually as everyone has only so much they can take from such abuse..
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Crybaby
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
Sorry but stop whining at how you're a crybaby at me, as you're acting like a lowly uneducated troll because you couldn't handle you were wrong
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SonicBoom-zers Featured By Owner Edited Dec 12, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Its very ironic on accounting that YAOI is actually homophobic itself. Especially since it fetishes gays and was originally first used and depicted as a 'pleasure to the feminine community'.

I literally have gay friends who absolutely feel demeaned with yaoi and stereotyped. 
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Edithel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017
THIS THANK YOU
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I hate yaoi because most of it involves either pedo ships (like Sebastian/Ciel), or non-consensual couples (like Sasuke/Naruto).

I don't mind yuri though, but that's because it doesn't usually reach the same creepy levels as yaoi. 
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cupcakes22222 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Student Artist
I honestly hate yoai and it's doesn't make me homophobic I'm just sick and tired of people calling me homophobic when I say I hate yoai it's just ridiculous of them to call me homophobic when they're not respect my opinion on the yoai thing
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Let me start by saying this is easily one of the best things on DA. With that being said...homophobia is a fake, made-up word from go; it's original meaning is "social anxiety", so when people call me a homophobe for disliking the idea of a lifestyle that permeates countless destructive diseases, all they're doing is mocking people with anxiety...like themselves...who have anxiety over my free opinion. Now moving on to the chicks who like it...yaoi fangirls (and yuri fanboys) are just THE WORST in terms of fanbase. Yeah, any fan is gonna dislike you bashing what they like, but these people will personally stalk, threaten, and publicly shame anyone who opposes them, even if you calmly say you simply don't like what they like. I'm a straight guy, and I like ladies A LOT, I like good fanart A LOT, but I'm not into yuri at all. The bestial, no-love-all-lust, disease-spreading lifestyles behind both yuri and yaoi just don't appeal to me, and just as people always say they're free to like it, I'm free to dislike it to.
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Shut up
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rwbyy Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
are you being serious or
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Raxu-Rangerking Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2016
You know it.
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LuziferMorgenstern1 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I completely agree with this stamp. To say that I don't like Yaoi/Yuri doesn't make me a goddamn homophobe! These sex-obsessed fangirls should get this through their thick skulls! I am just sick to find sex pics of the characters of the shows I watch. Heaven and Hell I even saw angel porn from Supernatural. I get blind when I see sh*t like this and this is one of those reasons why I absolutely hate this yaoi sh*t. Sorry for the strong language in here, but I just had to get this out of me. Those pervert fangirls are the worst people I have met in the internet so far. I already have gotten death threats in the past for simply saying that I dislike yaoi and yuri, because it is bullshit in my eyes to make a love couple out of two totally straight characters! And don't get me started on this disgusting and sick incest sh*t out there! What angers me the most are those people who are so sick in their heads that they even dare to pair real people, like Misha Collins and Jensen Ackles for example. To say that this crossed the line would be an understatement! I stumbled over so much f*cked up and sick sh*t in the web already that I am afraid to search for wallpapers of Supernatural or other TV Shows I like to watch, because I ALWAYS find disgusting sex pics of angels f*cking other angels or humans and I DON'T want to see this and I am sure that the actors of those shows doesn't want to see this as well. Or how would YOU guys out there feel if you search your name in the internet and suddenly you find sex pics of yourself and your best friend huh? Bet you wouldn't like this either! Last but not least I say this: If you want to send me hate go ahead. I don't care for that. If you can't take the truth, then it is your problem and not mine. The truth always hurts...
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Gavin-The-Bunny Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2016
This is something I don't get:

Why do people think if you like yaoi, then you're not a true ally to the LGBTQIA+? I've seen some people say that, and I don't get it at all.
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Hellslayer10 Featured By Owner Edited Apr 8, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I have nothing against gay people they have every right to get turned on to anyone who is the the same sex not everyone will be turn on to same sex. I am a straight or heterosexual person what ever you want to call me. I am not against gay marriage gays have every right to get married like we straight people. I just don't like it when they disrespect us heterosexual people for not liking the boy in love with boy or girl in love with girl. I just tolerate gay people for who they are. I don't like it when they call us homophobic for not liking boy in love with boy or girl in love with girl.
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Ironic considering that yaoi is more homophobic, relatively speaking.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
No it isn't, idiot.. A lot of gay people like yaoi, including myself. You want homophobic? How about the the rabid hate, murders, WWII concentration camps for homophobic! If anything yaoi puts gays in a good light! 
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Edithel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017
How does yaoi put gays in good light? Lots of yaoi ships do not make sense, are pedophilic, are non consensual etc. This is not good representation for homosexuals. It's turning them into fetishes. Being gay is not about pedophilia or being non consensual, which yaoi often does. Notice I said often.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2017
It's better then being hated, not to mention many gay people do like yaoi and crying about fetishes makes you look retarded. You only hate yaoi sinply because it's popular to hate on it, simple fact. I'm gay myself proving your comment was downright stupid, seriously you yaoi hatebrats baw and bash yaoi but never complain when it's hetero. Frankly all I see is hypocricy and denial.
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yaoi isn't meant for gay people though. It's nothing but female fap fuel. And some people complained about it having rape as love.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
Sorry but yeah it is for gay people too! So looks like you're wrong by a long shot! It isn't for females, it's for anyone who likes it! 
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Just because gay people read yaoi doesn't mean that it's meant for them. Just like how Shojo manga isn't geared towards guys.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2017
It is meant for anyone who likes it, pretty much. Why is it so hard for you to accept that gay people do like yaoi? If anything yaoi is more positive then negative compared to the real homophobia going on in the world.

Because of my looks I get misgendered often in public every day and I have pride in my looks so you could imagine how annoyed I get.. I had my hair for a while as well and I would never want to sink to streotypical male gender norms to please a bunch of jerks around where I live.. 
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ToastyBrain Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well in part homophobic and also in part fetishizing gay men in general.
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poninator Featured By Owner May 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
true. I'm surprised anybody can take gays seriously with them treating them like a fetish.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
No offense, but a lot of gay guys like yaoi, including me. Just thought I'd enlighten you to that fact. Pretty boys also exist as well, and we have it very ruff despite what others think..

Also how is romance ships between heteros somehow okay and but when it's two guys it's somehow a problem? :? Like so when hetero fans about fetishing hetero ships people don't call them heterophobic.

I don't know if you are aware but I see far worse hetero fanbrats and bara fanbrats then I ever run into yaoi fanbrats. I only ran into like one.. during the seven-eight years.. or is it nine[[old days of dA usernames couldn't be changed]]. Time flies I guess but frankly it seems half the time people attack yaoi but ignore the fact other ship fandoms have a lot of bad fans as well..

That guy you were agreeing with is actually a rule breaking cyber bully who lies about everything and tells anyone who proves to commit suicide and uses pathetic playground insults which makes me think he isn't the age he claims either.. he thinks telling people to kill themselves, calling them crybabies, butthurt, etc, over anyone disagreeing with him is "civil" and "mature" just to warn you. I have reasons for what I say and do, something others need to realize and note that people are not one sides and are far different then they may seem in one arguement..
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner May 27, 2016  Student Digital Artist
There's nothing wrong with gay porn though. Yaoi is just inaccurate (and it's too bishie).
On the other hand, we have bara, which is aimed at gay men.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
And not all gay people like bara, some prefer yaoi.
And what inacuracy? Pretty boys do exist, not all guys are ugly and disgusting.. I see nothing inacurate about yaoi, and that is coming from a gay boy.
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Jfc why are you getting butthurt? I'm just saying it as it is.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2017
You're the who is upset here, concidering how you can't handle a reality check that you're way wrong! It isn't how it is, you're just a immature hater who can't even accept the facts that gay people do like yaoi! Using terms like butthurt prove you're maturity is low and you're an obvious troll saying that because you can't handle you were wrong. Bara is disgusting as hell looking, and not all males are like that! Guess what? I'm very pretty for a male, and get confused for one often! So yeah your inaccuracies are all you're made up delusions!
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Ha ha. I'm upset and immature, because I'm the one who railing on a user for disliking yaoi and explaining why others dislike it. And I'm such a crybaby for trying to be civil at someone who's picking fights.
And did I say you have to like bara. No. What I'm saying is that most gay males do. You're aren't every gay person and neither are they.
Get over yourself and quit being a baby.
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PrinceDumuzi Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2017
You aren't every gay person either! You're not being civil at all especially given how you obviously hadn't realized your horrible mistake you made on who you mistreated just now! I guess, I'm sorry but you are attacking a pretty personal area! Everyone assumes every gay likes bara, when in reality that is false! You are the one being a baby as you cannot accept the fact a lot of gays do like yaoi and that makes you look stupid claiming it's homophobic when it's not at all! You're not being civil in the slighest and that's what all trolls try to claim when playing innocent when comfronted majority of the time, so think of your morals a bit.

I am not being a "baby" for being right and not closeminded and foolish as you're being.. so you need to learn the fact and be more open minded. What's the point on hating yaoi? It shouldn't affect you, and I simply stated a opinion I don't necessarily disrespect you for prefering bara. I'm suggesting an open mind.. 

I get misgendered so much in public and I hate it, but I don't sink to their streotypical male gender norms.. so yeah it is personal as I go through so much shit everyday because people can't accept that I am a male and just because I'm pretty doesn't mean I'm a girl.. I've had bullies attack me offline and online because of it.. so I'm sorry but I just want you to look at things in a different light here.. it's not as black and white as you're thinking it is..
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poninator Featured By Owner May 30, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
i agree
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Kibakiru Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2016   Digital Artist
I am neutral towards both yaoi and yuri, but i definitely don't support the things that yaoi portrays (I am yet to find a yuri with rape as a romantic plot device).

Yaoi was made for women, by women(and the rare man-- or the actually gay man, though they usually write for the Bara section).
That's why it involves Uke's and Seme's, even though gay couples usually don't have those kinds of roles (nobody is the man (in a lesbian relationship) or the woman (in a gay relationship) in the relationship). It's why it always has fantasy-like scenarios. It's wish fulfilment, and a lot of women prefer yaoi because it's two pretty-boys. 

And then there's the whole rape-is-love concept that almost all yaoi's have. Apparently it's hard to create an interesting couple without rape.

Anyway, no, disliking yaoi/yuri does not make you homophobic. Yaoi in itself portrays gay people in a negative light in multiple ways. The only thing that people really like about it is that it usually features pretty boys and the stereotypical gender roles. Other than that, there's nothing special about it.
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rubyrebecca123 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
true I'm personally neutral on yaoi/yuri but if I did have an opinion on it I wouldn't bash people or call them homophobes because of it. besides it has noting to do with IRL relationships.
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Hates-olives Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016
So true. The reason I dislike Yaoi is because it's not really my thing, and rabid Yaoi fangirls are ruining my favorite fandoms. I'm not homophobic or anything, but it makes me reluctant to even search up my favorite fandoms because the endless Yaoi shipping...
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FullmetalHearted Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2016
For all the people who think it's just gay art in anime that portrays rape and non-consensual acts, your all sadly mistaken. Most hentai and manga that portray hetro sex have underage girls, them saying "no" and the best example of this is the anime   Rin: Daughters of Mnemosyne

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ilovemlptlkwarriors Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2015
You're right
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